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Author:  Den&Bass [ Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:18 pm ]
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Author:  cjpa [ Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:23 pm ]
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it is possible, but you really need to be hardcore for it.
Most VST's won't run on linux, only a very small subset of VST's will run (the ones that don't have a fancy userinterface) and even then barely.
Device driver support for audiocards and even midi-processors still lacks.
Sequencers look ugly and aren't intuitive.

Though there's light at the end of the tunnel: the problems you describe (ntfs-support, rar-file thingie, digital camera wank) can be solved if you use google in the correct way and if you aren't afraid of dirtying your hands a little ;-)

Author:  marcas [ Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:48 pm ]
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Too much hastle if you ask me. I'd re-install Windows. I recommend Windows 2000 for producing but that's only based on my personal experience.

Author:  Den&Bass [ Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:53 pm ]
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i manage to solve these glitches at the rate i find them. for instance, i reformated my hard drive in fat32, bought a memory card reader. the rar wank is, unfortunately, a known bug to be fixed in a forthcoming update...

about sound, i tried LMMS, wich is a fruity-clone..really ugly, i'm trying it atm to see what features is has (i'm still looking for the slicer, FX and something that could make nice sounds like the Sytrus did)

another one is Energy XT2, made by berhinger (i know, its a brand famous for the bad quality of their products...). it looks fancier, but no demo available, i have to pay for a license (50 euro, thats ok). this one has timestretching, full VST support (they say), sample-ready synths, pitchshifting, FX, etc. it looks moreover correct, dunno about the overal result tho.

LMMS

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Author:  Den&Bass [ Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:55 pm ]
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Author:  DLo [ Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:03 pm ]
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Author:  Den&Bass [ Fri Sep 05, 2008 4:28 pm ]
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Author:  cjpa [ Fri Sep 05, 2008 5:28 pm ]
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Author:  Den&Bass [ Sat Nov 08, 2008 3:26 pm ]
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now i'm very much advanced in all this stuff. i can say some interresting things!
1)running sound progs on linux is a long journey...finding wich ones are good, then managing to get them working can be harsh when you dont know anything...i'd say that with some experience, it becomes easier, but you always need to read a lot in forums to find the infos you need to set things up...

2)you can use fruity loops under wine with some distros...nice to know, but its compatibility is garbage with ubuntu...

3)btw, there are many interresting softs (jack(allows to connect every softs altogether, a little like rewire but with more universality, ardour (protools clone), rosegarden (you play piano and it writes the musical part,...). the one i'm trying to make running is REAPER, its 100% wine-compliant and is able to run windows vsts! the gui reminds ableton live in all ways! and its freeeee!!!!
energy xt2 looks fun, but the demo doesnt allow saving projects...so i'm not sure i'll go further on this one since the other looks promising. :just after achieveing making it running, i read elsewhere that reaper was free and better...damnit!


i know you'll reply : "why dont i install windows back on another hd and just simply use FL or ableton?' well:
1)relying on the same softs as everyone else is just not funny anymore...
2)if i can do my sound without cracking expensive softs, thats good...because who knows, someday someone could investigate what i've been using.
3)windows just doesnt attract me now that i've discovered linux...getting back to it would be a proof of defeat. linux is a constant challenge, and many ppl have achieved it, so why not me?

Author:  cjpa [ Sat Nov 08, 2008 8:09 pm ]
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the thing you write about reaper is misleading: you can use it up till 30 days, after that you're morally required to buy it (though the price is very reasonable: 50$). I use it on windows. It replaces cubase sx.

The fact still remains: a lot of the vst's i use, are not wine-compatible so they won't work when running reaper in wine-mode. I'm thinking: everything from Native Instruments, the Rob Papen synths, every vst made with Synth Edit, and a bunch of others with custom user interfaces.
Probably in time their libraries will also be ported but not in the forseeable future. Wine-development is a cat-and-mouse game with the wine cat constantly running behind a rather fast windows-mouse..
But, i bet that if you invest a lot of time in it, you can do about the same sonic-wise as in windows. It just requires a lot of setup and learning.

I'm a big supporter of linux and open source, but when making music, i don't want to read support forums and sit in my terminal 4 hours to get something running. I need a sequencer and synths that don't interrupt my flow too much with technical difficulties.

Anyways, i'm interested in the things you can achieve, so if you get a decent setup running, don't hesitate to post about it here..

Author:  kyran [ Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:37 pm ]
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Author:  sepper8 [ Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:33 pm ]
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Author:  border [ Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: music production on UBUNTU

For a few years now I'm trying (struggling) with producing in linux. I don't want to move back and there's a lot of good software, but it's just not a very productive environment.

However, a few things changed that for me.

1. I needed a project management system. There was lash which was not very well supported. But now there is Ladish
http://ladish.org/
And it automatically starts and shuts down your programs (even those who don't support it), if you provide it with the command to start those. For programs supporting ladish it can even automatically save your entire project.

2. I needed a good sequencer who does midi and can work with samples (mostly for drums) decently. I tried ardour, which does drums very well, but no midi (coming up in 3.0). And with a lot of drum samples loaded it gets very slow and memory intensive (something to do with undo/redo I figure).
But only now I discovered Renoise. It is not open source software, which I prefer, but it really fits me well. There's a lot you can accomplish by the keyboard alone, so you don't have to touch your mouse a lot.

3. I bought a second hand Samsung Q1 Ultra.
Not a strong cpu, but enough memory (till 2GB). Working with such a small touchscreen and stylus is a delight. And I'm quite surprised to see what it is capable of in combination with my own baked realtime kernel (the ubuntu realtime kernel does not work with this device, kernel 2.6.31 has issues).
In working with samples in renoise I could not reach the limit easily. And it can handle 2 or 3 soft synths (zynaddsubfx and bristol) at the same time. Even a few effects.

4. There is a repository for Ubuntu which provides a lot of recently compiled audio software (ardour, ardour3.0, hydrogen, zynaddsubfx...)
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1350304
and the active projects get an update about every week. There are is lot of exotic and very interesting software to be found. All precompiled and packaged, ready to install.
Ladish can be easily installd from there too

5. For the less adventurous there is indamixx
Check www.indamixx.com
They provide a rock solid linux system for music production on laptops, netbooks and umpc's. I haven't tested it yet, but I will. I bought the samsung q1 ultra especially for it, but it seems I was able to pull it of myself for a great deal. Just mixxx doesn't seem to be stable on my system and they have it customised so that it won't break.

A lot to investigate, a lot to discover.
Sorry for the long post.
But I hope to be of assistance te anybody, and if someone does need some guidance I will be happy to provide it.

cheers

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