while looking for a open-source replacement soft to fruity (found!), i found THIS! some people on DOA use it, and dont obviously dont complain about it...its called MIXXX, and i think it will push some people around to go digital...



http://www.mixxx.org


Full Feature List

* Parallel waveform displays
* Waveform summaries
* MP3, OGG, WAVE, and FLAC playback
* Pitch-independent time stretch (key lock)
* Vinyl emulation
* Wave recording
* Free, open source software
* BPM detection and estimation
* Supported MIDI controllers:
o Hercules DJ Console MK2
o Hercules DJ Console MP3
o Hercules DJ Console RMX
o Hercules DJ Console Mac Edition
o Mixman DM2
o Tascam US-428
o M-Audio X-Session Pro
o M-Audio Xponent
o Evolution X-Session
o Ecler NUO4
o FaderFox DJ2
o Vestax VCI-100
o Numark Total Control
o ... and more - See our Hardware Compatibility page.
* Multichannel soundcard support (playback and capture)
* Multiple soundcard support
* Cross-platform (Windows XP and Vista, Mac OS X, Linux)
* Adjustable EQ shelves
* Crossfader curve control
* Skinnable interface with extra skins bundled
* Adjustable pitch range
* Multi-core CPU support
* 24-bit/96000 Hz playback and capture
* Crystal clear audio
* Hardware video acceleration
* Vinyl control support for:
o Serato CV02 vinyl
o Traktor Scratch vinyl
o FinalScratch Standard vinyl
o FinalScratch Scratch vinyl
o Serato CD

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screams for extra sabam taxes

You still need to buy the hardware though if you want to use timecoded vinyl , and you cant buy the hardware without the soft... so whats the point?

Second, if you want to mix just plain mp3's on your computer, you can use tractor or ableton.

Altho if this software and hardware package is cheaper than Serato I think it will have potentential

the hardware for timecode vinyl like serato and final scratch is nothing more or less than a simple usb-soundcard.. plus two timecode vinyls

will be about €150, so 500€'s cheaper than serato

or just 2 basic soundcards (1 for each channel). so you tweak your tower with an old soundblaster from your previous computer, and yopla!

oh...did i forgot to mention that the price of this soft is 0 euro? much better than a ableton live or traktor license if you dont wanna get in trouble in case of a sabam raid!

I don't see somebody taking his old tower with 2 soundblasters at a party though

So you still need a good soundcard with 4 inputs (preamps too?) and 4 outputs(not cheap), which will more than likely exceed 300€, and timecoded vinyls. So a bit more than 150€ in the end I think!

But cheaper than buying the whole "package". (I dont know about the stability of a hand made package rather than a "all in" a la serato, so its hard to tell which one is more interesting in the end)

come on, a lot of people already did it...even around us. among bankizz ppl, kwen and dubbleR did, if i remember right. but you're right, an external card is for sure better than soundblasters. but you have to buy one too if you're looking for the "true" serato (and this card is only made for it, moreover, so maybe less interresting production-wise)

i think its better to try with a ugly tower, then maybe go for the nice setup if its so good. personnaly, i'm not so interrested by this. a friend just got one (the m-audio clone). its spectacular, of course, but i think its easier to use cds -or vinyl- than bringing all this gear to a party, and moreover yes, you handle a vinyl, ok ; but you dont see the grooves of the track onto it, so its very confusing imo (but of course, you get used to it after a while). and there are skipping issues if the ground wire isnt very good (yes!) and if you use worn needles.


PS : mik, do you still use renoise? im starting on it, since i found that it works on linux!

some people do it, but it's for live performance, not for dj'ing with timecoded vinyls . My point was, if you have to encumber yourself with a tower to play with vinyls, it's not worth the hassle. For a live performance, it's something else, since you have no choice :p

And about the "seeing" of the tunes you play, it's actually way better with timecoded vinyl since you see the real waveform and not just the grooves!


And yes I still use renoise Great bang for your bucks imo!

den, can you resize the pic in your original message please? It's a tad oversized

OOOOOOOOR ...

You just get 2 cdj400 wich support final scratch ... dunno about this program tho ... might try it some day

cheers

Than you would spend even more money... and actually all cd players support those MP3 dj program things (FS, serato...) Since those packages come with timecoded CDs too..?

timecoded cd ? not really ... just usb connection

And well ... if you happen to have the cd-players it can be handy to use the serrato software at home ... I dont really think all cd-players support those programs tho ...

and yes i was kinda looking for such a program to test if it was possible or not ... so I can be even more lazy and dont have to put the mp3 on the usb stick before trying to mix it with some rekkids